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Fujitsu 42" Plasma Display P42HHA30AS
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:05 am
by digital_silence
I suspect that I consume more than 50% of the internet traffic on this forum these days... :-)
1. Device: Fujitsu 42" Plasma Display, Model Number P42HHA30AS
2. Type of device: Plasma Display
3. Year: 2004
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-8811/8910
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes (see Notes below)
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes (see Notes below)
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question? n/a
Notes:
I have tried all five Fujitsu files in TV file section - no luck.
Also, the interesting fact is that the User manual for this family of the displays, along with the model in question, also contains P50XHA30 and P63XHA30 as members of the same family. So, a couple of files in Pronto file section for Fujitsu become "promising" - P50XHA10 and P63XHA40.
I wouldn't mind trying those if someone converts those two Pronto files into JP1 upgrades or tells me how I could do that myself.
Thanks.
Re: Upgrade wanted: Fujitsu 42" Plasma Display P42HHA30
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:36 am
by Capn Trips
digital_silence wrote:
Also, the interesting fact is that the User manual for this family of the displays, along with the model in question, also contains P50XHA30 and P63XHA30 as members of the same family. So, a couple of files in Pronto file section for Fujitsu become "promising" - P50XHA10 and P63XHA40.
I wouldn't mind trying those if someone converts those two Pronto files into JP1 upgrades or tells me how I could do that myself.
Thanks.
Links please?
If you want someone to look at something, you gotta make it easy for him/her (in this case, me.
)
Re: Upgrade wanted: Fujitsu 42" Plasma Display P42HHA30
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:18 am
by vickyg2003
Capn Trips wrote:digital_silence wrote:
Also, the interesting fact is that the User manual for this family of the displays, along with the model in question, also contains P50XHA30 and P63XHA30 as members of the same family. So, a couple of files in Pronto file section for Fujitsu become "promising" - P50XHA10 and P63XHA40.
I wouldn't mind trying those if someone converts those two Pronto files into JP1 upgrades or tells me how I could do that myself.
Thanks.
Links please?
If you want someone to look at something, you gotta make it easy for him/her (in this case, me.
)
DITTO
However I did have a link to that from some other work.
I have tried all five Fujitsu files in TV file section - no luck.
I looked at this and it was similar to upgrades we had in the file section, BUT the KM Upgrades didn't open correctly with RM.
I've added a KM and RM version of those files
RemoteCentral
P63XHA40
KM version of P42HHA(VHA)40, P50XHA40, P55XHA40
RM Version
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:19 am
by digital_silence
Really sorry, Capn Trips - I even <CTRL+C>'ed the URL in Pronto website, but forgot to paste it here when typing the post. Sincere apologies.
The Pronto files are
HERE and
HERE.
Once again - absolutely accept your point. Just plain forgot. Sorry.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:10 am
by digital_silence
Thanks, vickyg2003.
Just tried both your KM and RM upgrades for XHA40, just in case (they are supposed to be identical) - nope.
(I've noticed that only two buttons are mapped - Mute and Menu).
Hope I'll have more luck with P50XHA10, if you guys can convert Pronto file. Thank you.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:43 am
by vickyg2003
I didn't bother mapping and shooting the functions, but I did look at the P50XHA10 and spot checking it seems to list the same device/subdevice/obcs.
However, now that I am really carefully looking at KM and RM, I'm seeing that even though the two keys are mapped the same, the hex is different, and one is requiring a protocol and the other one isn't. So this problem is above my skill level.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:56 am
by 3FG
Use DecodeCCF to generate a text file that shows Protocol, device numbers and OBCs.
Be sure to read the notes on how to use the program-- it is unusual.
DecodeCCF
The Pronto files are Fujitsu protocol, device 132.138.
The Fujitsu protocol has three official UEI executors, which use different lead out times. This suggests to me that there are some pecularities about Fujitsu protocol, but I don't know.
The Lookup Tool calls this a Sharp DVD protocol (one of the Kaseikyo group of protocols).
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:04 am
by vickyg2003
Okay, did get past the listing of the functions. I mapped, what I understood, the volume, mute, power, menu and arrows.
When I switched to the 8811 in KM, I got a protocol unavailable, so I switched over to RM and did the upgrade they suggested and that shot a GAP signal. So the problem here is we have no tools for the protocol. We probably have the code.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 10:49 am
by vickyg2003
I was shooting Device 132, subdevice 140, function 16
IRP form: {37.3k,428,msb}<1,-1|1,-3>(8,-4,A:48,1,-42.8m){A=$28C621003108}
Fujitsu
IRP notation: {37k,432}<1,-1,1,-3>(8,-4,20:8,99:8,X:4,E:4,D:8,S:8,F:8,1,-110)+
EFC translation: LSB comp
Fujitsu is the member of the Kaseikyo family with OEM_code1=20 and OEM_code2=99.
F = 08= $10 = 16 function
S = 31 = $8c = 140 Subdevice
D= 00 = 00 device is missing Should have been 132
e= 1 = 8
x= 2 = 4
oem2 = c6 = $63 = 99
oem1 = 28h =$1C =28
I am not seeing what I expect.
the missing device seems to be in the mysterious e, x postition.
The 20 doesn't appear to be in the oem 1, or my hex is rustier than I thought.
so what are E, X?
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:24 am
by vickyg2003
Seeing that keymaster didn't require an upgrade for my 7800, I thought I'd try that remote to see if I could produce this protocol, but that didn't work either. I guess if you knew how to use makehex, you might be able to create some pronto hex, and convert that into a uei learn, but I've exhausted all the possibilities that I can think of.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:35 am
by vickyg2003
Okay, I lied, I hadn't tested all possibilites, so I loaded up the upgrade for the urc 1067A and got yet another signal.
I'm getting ready for my trip, so I'll pass the torch on this one.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:43 pm
by vickyg2003
Digital_silence
I don't know if you've explored the new feature of IR 8.03 where you can import pronto hex as a learn. Go to Add and paste this pronto hex in the box. The pronto hex starts at the 0000.
Until our tools are capable of adding the fujitsu protocol, you can get some control over your device.
Power : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=0 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34EA
On : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=1 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34EA
off : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=2 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34EA
Left : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=32 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34CB
right : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=33 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34AC
menu : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=34 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34AC
up : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=35 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 348D
down : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=36 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34AC
okay : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.138 OBC=38 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 348D
vol+ : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.140 OBC=16 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34CB
vol- : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.140 OBC=17 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34AC
mute : Protocol=Fujitsu Device=132.140 OBC=18 (Pronto from signal)
0000 0068 0032 0000 0080 003C 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 002F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 000F 0010 34AC
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:33 pm
by digital_silence
Yep. Those HEX "simulated learns" worked perfectly on the subject.
OK, this gets me "out of jail" for now, until better times.
Thanks a lot vickyg2003.
vickyg2003 wrote:I'm getting ready for my trip
Where are you off to? Vacations?
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:54 pm
by vickyg2003
digital_silence wrote:Yep. Those HEX "simulated learns" worked perfectly on the subject.
OK, this gets me "out of jail" for now, until better times.
Thanks a lot vickyg2003.
You can get the other codes out of the CCF file, I just don't like "detail" work.
If you run decodeCCF in the expanded mode you'll get all the timing data you need.
decodeccf 99 x
ccf_filename
Grab the timing data, replace all " " (that's a space) with " +" (that's a space +) and then replace all the "-" with a " -", you have timing data that you can drop into irscope with the frequence 38381 and you'll get all the codes that this equipment can use.
I don't know if its "user error" on my part, or if there is a flaw in the way we are generating fujitsu protocol, but I can't get this thing to send the proper signal to save my life!
vickyg2003 wrote:I'm getting ready for my trip
Where are you off to? Vacations?
We've got a wedding out east next Saturday, and we decided to make a week long trip out of this. Manhattan, Boston and a few other places, and then a wedding and back home.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:46 pm
by vickyg2003
The fixed data out of RM is in the wrong order. If you change FF and DE are reversed. If you switch them into this order when you paste it into IR, it will send the signals we are looking for.
03 D7 39 FF DE
Protocols.INI needs to be fixed
The DeviceTranslator is pointing at the wrong byte. It says 24 but it should say 32. The EFC's are translating the wrong byte so we need a CmdIndex line added to the [Fujitsu] section.
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,8,32)
CmdIndex=1
Can you see how I get when I want to figure something out. I can't just let go!