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from IR to KM

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:22 pm
by 89formula
How do you "export" a device from IR to KM? For example, I have an 8910 remote and my stereo receiver is a 1023, from the book, not an upgrade device. How do I extract these codes, so I can load them into another remote, such as a modified Sony D-Tivo remote?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:29 pm
by The Robman
Short answer: you don't.

Long answer is you check the file section to see if there's an upgrade there you can use. The RCVR/1023 code is for Pioneer receivers and there's several upgrades available for those.

In the event that there isn't an upgrade available, you use your JP1 learning remote (ie, the URC-8910) to capture the signals from your original remote and you build an upgrade yourself.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:49 pm
by 89formula
Well, that sucks.

So the data for individual buttons on built in codes are not stored in the EPROM?

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:39 pm
by Mark Pierson
Correct... the built-in codes are stored in the remote's ROM. JP1 doesn't provide access to ROM; it can only read/write the EEPROM.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:37 pm
by The Robman
89formula wrote:Well, that sucks.
How is it preventing you from moving forward with your programming? Your immediate task was to program your Pioneer receiver and I told you that there's an upgrade waiting for you in the file section (use the Pioneer-master file). sAre there other codes you were hoping to move from one remote to the other? If so, what are the codes and what are the devices that they control? Chances are we have upgrades for them too.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:00 am
by 89formula
Just trying to understand what is possible and what is not. :) Part of it is I wanted to disable the power button because I keep hitting it accidentally. What I did was to learn it to do the same function as another button, but I think it would be beter if it did nothing at all.

Thanks for your help

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:12 am
by johnsfine
89formula wrote: I wanted to disable the power button because I keep hitting it accidentally. What I did was to learn it to do the same function as another button, but I think it would be beter if it did nothing at all.
There are several different good ways to approach that problem:

1) Pioneer receivers are all pretty similar to each other in command structure. The built-in 1023 setup code is probably no closer to your particular receiver than any Pioneer upgrade in the JP1 files area. You can start with one of those upgrades, unmap the power button and fix any other buttons that don't do what you want.

2) A KeyMove of some arbitrary EFC from some setup code for some device that you don't have would probably be a better "do nothing" command than a learned signal for a device you do have.

3) A KeyMove for some setup code the remote doesn't even have may be an even better do nothing. KeyMoves for non present setup codes tend to seriously mess up the state of the extender if you're using an extender. But if you're not using an extender, I THINK a KeyMove of a non present setup code is a clean "do nthing".

4) If you have an extender with DSM support then a "do nothing" DSM is easy to construct.

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:20 am
by The Robman
Plus, in this case, the RCVR/1023 setup code doesn't even support advanced codes, so programming any EFC using the remote itself will almost certainly produce a non-working button.