Macros? extenders? urc8910

[jon9]

OK. Sorry if I'm an idiot, but I can't find the info that explains, or at least explains to my understanding how to make, input and activate a macro. I was trying to figure this out myself but it's just taking too long. Could someone please SHOW me what a working macro for the 8910 (with extender) looks like. Do I put power after each device command? What one is the device button "DEV_CBL" or "CBL". I've read all the documentation I can find but they all seem to be written for someone who knows how to do this already and the definitions of all these new terms (sorry I know you guys work you ass off on this stuff, It's me not you" I just am not getting it. I also need VPT and I can't get that either but that will be a macro? I don't get how that would work. Would it be a separate one? incuded in the device key? How would it be activated, and what if my device key IS a macro?/%$&)%$@#@)&!!! Thanks so much and I know someone will set me straight.--john
Oh and I have a HK7200 but the surround buttons(dolby, logic7, dts) are not in the upgrade and since learning them won't work with the extender( well it works, then screws up everything going back to ir.exe) How do I get them to work? Also, no 6/8 channel butto for the SACD/DVD-A or Video-4.

[The Robman]

Oh and I have a HK7200 but the surround buttons(dolby, logic7, dts) are not in the upgrade and since learning them won't work with the extender( well it works, then screws up everything going back to ir.exe) How do I get them to work? Also, no 6/8 channel butto for the SACD/DVD-A or Video-4.

I'll leave the extender questions to the extender guys. But for this, you should use learning to get the required info for building an upgrade to control this device. Or, assuming that you have found a working setup code already, you coudl just use larning to find the EFC codes and then program keymoves to replace the learned signals.

[ElizabethD]

Could someone please SHOW me what a working macro for the 8910 (with extender) looks like. Do I put power after each device command? What one is the device button "DEV_CBL" or "CBL". I've read all the documentation I can find but they all seem to be written for someone who knows how to do this already...

Join the crowd I'm not one of the extender guys, I'm slowly figuring all this out. So I won't tell you how to do it.
The info I found very helpful for my 8910 is on yahoo, an elegant design by Greg Smith.
Also, this post shows a piece of the process for 8910, shows how to code several things in great detail, and refers to the above mentioned design article
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... mands#p6069
Enjoy

[jon9]

You won't tell me how? Is my question violating some "magician code" or something. Is this why nobody is specific in these forums(I'm Serious) Should I withdraw my question?

[The Robman]

You won't tell me how? Is my question violating some "magician code" or something. Is this why nobody is specific in these forums(I'm Serious) Should I withdraw my question?

She means she won't tell youhow to do it because she doesn't know how yet, as she's just starting to figure it out for herself.

I've never used an extender so I'm not the right one to answer your question either, but I'm guessing that DEV_CBL will put the remote into cable mode and CBL is just the cable device button. Remember, once you're running an extender, none of the physical buttons have any special purpose anymore. In other words, the CBL button no longer selects cable mode, the LIGHT button no longer turns on the light, etc, etc. All buttons are completely meaningless until you give them a meaning.

IIRC, if you use the default IR file supplied for most extenders, there are usually macros already programmed to each of the device buttons that basically returns their original meaning.

[Mark Pierson]

Is this why nobody is specific in these forums(I'm Serious)

That's a bit harsh, don't you think?

The reason none of the answers thus far have been specific is that those responding don't know. You have to understand that different extenders have different features, and that makes it hard for those of us who don't even have the specific model remote to give answers.

Hang in there... someone who knows that model (or is more experienced with extenders in general) should be able help.

[vasqued2]

From the ReadMe.txt file included with the extender...

To achieve VPT, replace the SET_VOL_KEYS command within the macro for each device that should have VPT enabled with the commands to set the VPT keys to the desired device.

For example, to enable TV VPT on your VCR, the VCR key macro might be:

DEV_TV; SET_VOL_KEYS; DEV_VCR; SET_TRANS_KEYS; SET_CHAN_KEYS; SET_MENU_KEYS; SET_PIP_KEYS; SET_OTHER_KEYS; SET_LCD

The reason I didn't reply sooner is because
1. This information was in the Readme
2. Your post didn't say what you wanted the macro to do or include your attempt at doing it so I didn't have a clear picture of where your misunderstanding was.
3. If you use extinstall.exe or the provided 8910_ex1.txt as a base it will automatically define base macros on your device keys (albeit w/o VPT) which makes me think you are missing something pretty basic.

If the information above doesn't give you what you need, read the readme if you haven't already and then post more specifics.

David

[jon_armstrong]

FYI, jon9, David wrote the extender for the 8910/9910.

[jon9]

Don't mean to be harsh I'm just frustrated That I can't figure this stuff out. Also I have yet to see a working macro. I don't know if I have to put a specific power on/off between each command. That's why I say I would like to see one. Thanks everyone

[vasqued2]

jon9, I'm still confused as to what you are trying to do. I know you are frustrated but to help, I need to understand exactly what you want. You may or may not want Power commands in the macro depending on what you want it to do.

Just tell me what you want the macro to do, but be specific.

For example,
When I press the TV button, I want it to turn on the TV and have all of the buttons control the TV except for the volume buttons, which I want to control my stereo.

Once I have that, I should be able to give you an example.

David

[ElizabethD]

You won't tell me how? Is my question violating some "magician code" or something. Is this why nobody is specific in these forums(I'm Serious) Should I withdraw my question?

No, no. no plot here. Just lack of qualifications. But I'll offer you some hope since I'm on maybe page2.

First of all, when you install the extender, make sure extinstall.exe is in the same directory where RDFs are. that may well be a different directory than IR. Things aren't pretty otherwise. I suspect it's a version thing.

Secondly, don't think you have to type DEV_TV;SET... IR provides dropdown list. Both for keymoves and macros. It also has a Special Protocols window with its dropdowns and clear categories what goes where.

The materials I suggested, especially the forum link does have very specific 8910 examples you can use.

Hang in there. The payoff in speed and convenience is unbelievable even with the very little bit that I got built.

[jon9]

Ok, for example I want to click the home theater button and have the cable box turn on (or should I leave this on all the time motorolla 5100) which the tv is auto switched on by the cbl box, then I want the receiver to turn on to video 3 then switch to tv mode to go to the vid 1 input then switch back to cbl mode but have the volume controlled by the AVR. Then how do I turn this off? I would need another macro? for example the receiver is turned on by power but off by the stop button? What happens when I want to switch to another mode. All the components have to have discretes then ,correct? I don't think my tv does older toshiba cf35f50. I also believe every thing is installed correctly. extender for the 8910,upgrades for HK7200, dvd 563a, vcr, sony cd jukebox thingy, none I could find for the tv tosh.cf35f50 but seems to work fine with the 0156 code except for I guess discretes?

[e34m5]

With all due respect you may be making this harder than it needs to be. From what I have read in your posts it suonds like it can be done without the extender.

I would try first with the normal set up and then if you can't get the results try the extender.

Jumping straight into extenders can be a bit daunting.

[jon9]

I may be, but from what I understand you can't have a device button be a macro without an extender and aren't they supposed to run faster and more efficient with it?

[e34m5]

A very common way to do that is to assign it to the shifted state of the device button. So Shift (Set key on the 8910)+Device.