Problem using specific device with macro

chinoverme1 · Post by **chinoverme1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 7:11 am

Hi:
I am trying to program my 8811 using the 6012 extender and some macros. I've been reading all information available about this extender and made the txt file in the link.

New9Prueba.txt

I've used the device keys to start the different macros. The problem is that if I press the DVD key, it sets all devices to watch DVD but if I want to change the surround mode in the receiver I have to press the RCVR device key first so I can press the key to change the surround mode but this key is already with another macro (to listen the radio). This problem will also happen if I want to change the colors in the TV while watching DVD because it will run the TV macro.

Any suggestions

Thanks

Luis Verme

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:30 pm

You could create a new macro on shift-RCVR that only changes the device mode. In fact, you might want to do this for all device buttons.

Another idea is to simply keymove the "surround mode" key from the RCVR mode to the DVD mode, if that is something you do often, so you don't have to change the device mode at all. Any of the M1-M4 or L1-l$ keys would be good candidated for this. On my URC-6131 I use the Audio/CC button for this purpose.

chinoverme1 · Post by **chinoverme1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:53 pm

Greg:
Thank you for your reply.
I like your second solution but I don't know how to do this.
I would like to put it in L1.
Can you help me with this.

Thanks

Luis Verme

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:23 pm

Your RCVR uses setup code AUD/0463. The EFCs (aka Advanced Codes) for that are listed at http://www.hifi-remote.com/cgi-bin2/ueic.cgi?amp_0463. I'm not sure which of these you want to use in this case, but let's assume that you want to use Surround +, which is EFC 116.

On the Key Move page, create a new key move bound to Device DVD and Key L1, with Device Type Audio and Setup Code 0463, and with EFC of 116.

chinoverme1 · Post by **chinoverme1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:30 pm

Greg:
Thank you for your email.
I programed the L1 key for "Surround Mode" in DVD, TV and CD modes. It works fine.
I have another problem.
By default, the AUD/0463 in the 8811, key "2" is Input AUX, key "5" is Input Video 1, key "0" is Input CD and key "1" is Input Tuner.
When I press the DVD key, every device is set OK. In DVD mode, if I press the TV key, the Receiver stays in Input Video 1, but if I am in CD or RCVR (Receiver is in Input CD or in Input Tuner) mode and I press the TV key, every device is OK including the receiver which changes to AUX.
Any sugestions? May be a Delay can help?

Thanks

Luis Verme

P.D. Sorry if my English is not so good. I'm from Peru and my first language is Spanish.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:33 pm

Luis,

It's a little bit difficult to figure out what you are trying to do with so much nested use of Macros, ToadTogs, LKPs, and shift-cloaking, but I think I understand what happens when you do a short-press of the TV key:

- Switch all key sets except volume to TV mode.
- Power off the DVD (ToadTog on DVD:Phantom1)
- Power ON the receiver (ToadTog on AUX:Phantom2)
- Send a 2 to the receiver (to switch to AUX Input)
- Power ON the TV (ToadTod on TV:Phantom2)
- Tune TV to channel 15

I can't see any reason why switching to TV mode from DVD mode would be any different than switching to TV mode from CD mode.
Does the receiver behave this way when you try to switch inputs without using the macros, just manually pressing the keys in the same sequence?

Adding a delay, or even simply repeating the 2 may solve the problem.

I found that my equipment has a significant delay between power on and being able to process the next command, so I do not include any power commands in my mode-switching macros. I have a global power on and a global power off macro instead.

chinoverme1 · Post by **chinoverme1** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:08 pm

Hi Greg:
I repeated the commands to create delays as you recomended and worked fine. The final version is in the link below:

New11Prueba.txt]

Because I'm begining with JP1, I think I´ve made a bit complicated the macros, ToadTog, etc. as you say in your email.

How can I simplify these routines?

I have a TEAC receiver (no discrete power), a TEAC CD player (powers at the same time as the receiver), Samsung DVD (no discrete power) and Sony Tv.

The idea is to switch all devices needed to play the key device I press (Short press). Long press syncronizes that device.
Long press Power switches Off all devices.

Thanks again

Luis Verme

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:34 pm

If your devices don't have discrete, you pretty much have to use ToadTogs. You've already stated you want to use LKPs.
I don't know that there is a simpler way to do what you want. You've still got more than half your keymove/macro space and more than half your upgrade space left. I think you are fine.

It was only complicated for me to figure out since I didn't know what you were trying to accomplish, and how you did it. I had to decipher the chain of macros, lkps, toadtogs, and shift-cloaking, without any prior explanation of how you had done it. Also, and maybe this is only because you are using .txt files instead of .ir files, you haven't used any notes (which can be attached to any keymove, macro, or upgrade) to document what you have done. That would have made it easier for me, and probably for you too when you come back in a few months and want to change something.

chinoverme1 · Post by **chinoverme1** » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:51 pm

Greg:
Thank you for your reply.
I have an IR file and I've put some notes for future documentation. The problem is that they are in Spanish, my native language, and this forum is in English, so may be much people would not understand my notes.
Well, thanks very much again. You've been of great help.

Luis Verme