Help creating a WAV upgrade file for my URC9910

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:07 pm

Hi, I just discover this website and there is a lot of info to digest before I am able to fully understands how to use the different tools.

So I decided to ask for help. Here is my problem.

I have a wav to upgrade my remote with the 1610 tv code for my Olevia 237v TV. This was send to me by the company and I save it.
I also have a Sonicview (FTA) satellite receiver which the company still don't have a working code.
I found in this website a file (Link to file https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3836) that should work for my sat receiver but I still don't have the jp1 interface.

I really will appreciate if somebody help me to put both (wav + file in link above) together in a wav format so I can upgrade my remote until I get my JP1 interface.

I already try the guide to import the file in the link int keymaster and then copy the data to ir.exe. Also used ir.exe to import the wav file together.
After saving both info together I used the ir2wav tool to create a wav file. So far so good. I tried the upgrade with the new file I notice it is very big, still tried and got error at the end. Don't know what I did wrong.

Here is the link to the original wave file for my TV https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4929

TIA

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:35 am

Here you go...
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4930

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:26 am

The Robman thank you very much for the wave file creation.
I tested it and work great. olny keys that dont work as expected are exit, mute, sleep and the l1 thru l4, but I can live with that until I get my jp1 interface.
Can you describe how you did it?
I tried with ir.exe + keymaster and then using the ir2wav tool without success. Did you used the same tools?
Maybe I did something wrong.
One more question, I see a jp1.2 serial interface for sale in the websites pointed in the guide. Can this interface work with urc9910?
The other question I have is if I can use the jp1.2 serial interface with a usb2serial cable I already have for my laptop?

Again thanks a lot for taking the time to read my post and generating the wave file with both codes. Now I don't have to send y remotes to the company for then to generate the code. I will use what I save in shipping toward buying the jp1.2 interface that I see will be extremely useful in the future.

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:58 am

The JP1.2 interface only works with JP1.2 remotes, you will need a JP1 interface with the URC-9910.

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:12 am

I see. I need to look for a jp1 interface that uses db9 serial port because my laptop doesn't have printer port. It doesn't have serial also but I hope I can use the jp1 serial interface (db9) with my usb to serial cable.
Thanks again!.

classicsat · Post by **classicsat** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:30 am

I believe you need a real serial port for the serial port JP1 cable to work. If you need to use USB, you need the USB JP1 adapter.

Post by **The Robman** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:49 am

For traditional JP1 interfaces, you need to have a real parallel, serial or USB port, you can't use adapters.

For the serial JP1.x interface, you can use a serial-to-USB adapter.

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:50 pm

After some testing I find out why ir.exe didn't have the option to generate the wave file enable.
ir.exe was missing the path where the ir2wav.
I still haven't figure out who to include the L1, L2, L3 and L4 keys in the wave file. I am able to see the keys in ir.exe but they did not get included in the wave file.
I also tried generating a wave file with these keys using the export to wave function and then selecting the key moves, macros etc.
It generates the wave but I can't program the remote with it.
What I am doing wrong?
Is there a way to include these keys in the wave file?
Again thanks for your help.

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:13 am

You can create a 'keymoves/macros only' WAV file and then load that, but if you can't figure out how to make that work, you can always program the keymoves the old fashioned way (ie, by entering the advanced codes on the remote).

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:53 am

Rob,
When I created the wav I try to load it but the remote stay on download.
It didn't behave like when I program it with the upgrade that at the end it automatically got out of download and go back to normal.
I just was wondering why the keymove were not included in the upgrade wav.
I am going to give another shoot and see while wait for my jp1 cable to arrive.
I am curious, when you load a wav upgrade it replaces any other upgrade you done before. What about if I load the wav keymove wav, will it replace the previous data I loaded with the tv & sat info?
TIA

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:51 am

If the KeyMove/Macro wav works, it will replace all previous keymoves and macros.

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:44 am

WAV files can upgrade different portions of the memory, or if you prefer, the entire memory. Whenever you use a WAV file, it will *REPLACE* the current memory rather than add to it, so you will lose any programming that you may have previously had.

For a non-JP1 user, the main reason to use WAV files is to add upgrades as this is the only way to get that programming into the remote. In most cases, WAV files are not essential for adding keymoves as these can be added using the remote itself (unless the keymove requires more than 1 byte of data, which is not the case here).

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:04 pm

Thanks for th explanation.
Been a newbie, there are still thinks that I miss. For instance I maybe using the wrong term. I am using the keymove term because that's where the data copied for the L's keys end up on ir.exe

My 8910 remote have the L's key which I want to program using the upgrade file located here (https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3836). In KeyMaster these keys are programmed.
Basically everyother keys in the file where the link point to work except the L's and M's key.

When I copy-n-paste to ir.exe a msg windows appear asking to assign a device to the key which i choose to be the same SAT.

ir.exe shows these keys in keymode macro but the wav file I create is accepted by the remote but when I press any of the L's key nothing is transmitted.

Is that because the codes are wrong or because it did not upload the codes to the remote? I am really confuse.
I may be doing somthing wrong, is that right?

johnsfine · Post by **johnsfine** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:10 pm

The original design of the remote limits which keys can be included in an upgrade. The L's and M's can't be included in an upgrade, but can be defined by keymove.

As a convenience to ordinary users of JP1 cables, KM allows keys to be defined that cannot be included in an upgrade. Then KM includes information with the upgrade telling IR.EXE to create keymoves for those keys.

If you were using a JP1 cable, you would be programming the entire eeprom image from IR.exe. That includes the keymoves, so the L and M keys would work, and the complications needed to make them work would be moderately transparent to the user.

But since you are using .wav files, you need to do more to get those keymoves properly defined in your remote.

favfny · Post by **favfny** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:49 pm

Can you tell me what more I need to do to get the keymove loaded via wav file?
I still have the ir file so if you can tell me what additional steps need to be done I am willing to try it out.
tia